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你家每周洗几锅衣服?

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发表于 2010-1-27 10:12:03 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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发表于 2010-1-27 10:41:36 | 显示全部楼层
七星,你家开洗衣店?
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发表于 2010-1-27 10:50:45 | 显示全部楼层
老巫: 七星,你家开洗衣店?
为了5分。
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发表于 2010-1-27 10:54:33 | 显示全部楼层
SevenStar: 为了5分。
建议以后设计投票时加一个“为了5分”,专门收废票。
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发表于 2010-1-27 10:59:04 | 显示全部楼层
SevenStar: 为了5分。
这小子估计从来不洗衣服。
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发表于 2010-1-27 11:09:09 | 显示全部楼层
多谢开投。本来想开的,又脚得蓝人不易。不过好像还应该初一人头。
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发表于 2010-1-27 11:18:33 | 显示全部楼层
为了漫皇冠

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703808904575025021214910714.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

The Great American Soap Overdose
Too Much Detergent Makes Our Clothes Dingy and Our Machines Smell. Can New Products Break Our Sudsy Habit?

By ELLEN BYRON
In the laundry room, Americans are prone to overkill. They pour too much detergent into their washing machines.

Generations of consumers have washed clothes with the idea that more soap means cleaner laundry. But the sudsy habits are creating messy problems from dingy clothing to worn machines.

Making matters worse, the latest generation of detergents are concentrated and so require users to use less product-per-washload than ever before. And more consumers are buying highefficiency washers, which need far less water than older models. It's a combination begging for more careful measuring—something Americans stubbornly resist.

"Before it didn't matter as much," says Mary Zeitler, consumer scientist for Whirlpool Corp.'s Institute of Fabric Science. "But now you have to be much more precise in dosing."

Over the next few weeks, Procter & Gamble Co. plans to introduce easier-to-read plastic measuring caps for its liquid detergent brands, including Tide, Gain, Era and Cheer. The new caps will have more-defined measurement lines inside and bigger numbers that are staggered, not stacked, says Dawn French, P&G's head of laundry research and development for North America.

Laundry remains a time-consuming chore and one done largely by women. It was the primary household responsibility of 76% of women and 24% of men in a 2007 Whirlpool survey of 2,500 consumers; some 78% of those surveyed do approximately nine loads of laundry each week. The equivalent of 1,100 washloads are started every second of every day, P&G says.

Packaging, in most cases, hasn't helped. The molded lines and numbers inside detergent caps are hard to read, especially in a dimly lit laundry room. And even though concentrated detergents have been on the market since at least 2007, many caps still hold more than is needed for an average load.

Method Products Inc. this month launched an ad blitz for a new detergent with a pump dispenser, designed to help curb overdosing. Method found that 53% of people don't use the recommended amount of detergent per washload, preferring instead to guess or, worse, to simply fill the cap up to the top—a practice that wastes more than half the loads a detergent bottle could wash, Method executives say.

"Take a cap and look at where the lines are—nowhere near the top," says Adam Lowry, co-founder of San Francisco-based Method. "That's not accidental. In an extremely mature market like laundry, for established players to grow they have to either steal share or get people to use more," Mr. Lowry says. "They are trying to dupe people into using more product than they need."

Hogwash, big detergent makers say. And besides, companies don't want to boost sales by confusing consumers, because they don't want their customers disappointed in how the product makes their clothes look and washing machines wear. Detergent "overpouring" creates a high, foamy tide inside the machine, lifting soil and lint above the water level so it isn't rinsed away. That leaves residue on clothing that fades colors and attracts more dirt, they say. Inside the machine, detergent buildup encourages odor and bacteria growth, and leads in time to wear and tear that will require professional attention, washer manufacturers say.

"We're constantly doing research to try to get the lines easier to read," says P&G's Ms. French.

Making the caps difficult to read "isn't our intent whatsoever," says Greg Tipsord, general manager of laundry for Henkel A.G.'s U.S. consumer goods unit, which makes Purex detergent. Consumers do so much laundry each week that they consider themselves experts. "They all know there are directions on the back of the bottle," he says. "They just choose to ignore them."

Even so, a cap needs to fit a bottle and hold detergent without leaking—two priorities that take precedence over legibility, says Jonathan Asher, a senior vice president at Perception Research Services, a package-design consulting firm. Also, touting that a cap corrects a consumer's laundry mistakes would be a tricky marketing feat, he says. "You have to avoid implying that the consumer isn't smart enough to get it right in the first place."

Through much of Europe, detergent premeasured in tablets and sachets has been popular for years. But in the U.S., pre-dosed products have been largely unsuccessful. Consumers usually pick up their laundry habits during adolescence from their mothers, and changing them is hard, says Bob Deutsch, founder of Brain Sells, a marketing consulting firm.

American consumers, it seems, also want more control. Many people have their own laundry "recipe," and each one believes her unique method leads to superior results, industry executives say. P&G, the world's leading detergent maker, calls such involved laundry doers "master chemists."

When it was designing packages for its concentrated detergents, P&G made sure a half-cap, filled to the "2" line, would wash a medium-size load of laundry, Ms. French says. The highest line, numbered "3," is meant for heavy loads—an option the master chemist wants, Ms. French says. "We're trying to help her get more precise," she says. "We also have a line '1,' by the way, so she can use that, too."

Thanks to modern washer technology, many overpourers will never have to come to grips with their habit. Ms. Zeitler, at Whirlpool, says some washers have software that corrects for too much suds by adding extra rinses. To clean the buildup from overpouring, Ms. Zeitler recommends cleaning washers monthly using an empty hot-water cycle and either bleach or Affresh, a cleaning product it introduced just as concentrated detergents hit. Another tip: Use a marker to draw a line on the outside of the detergent cap to make it easier to see.

Executives at Henkel see an opening for pre-dosed detergent. This month marked the start of a big ad push for Purex three-in-one laundry sheets, each containing detergent, fabric-softener and anti-static agents. Some people find ways to customize, even with a laundry sheet, Mr. Tipsord says. "If they think their load is especially dirty, they use two sheets."

General Electric Co.'s top-of-the-line Profile frontload washer offers to take on all dosing decisions itself. The SmartDispense feature, adding $600 to the cost of the machine, holds up to six months' worth of detergent and allocates the right amount for each load, taking the detergent concentration level and the amount of clothes into account.

Proper dosing is the biggest laundry concern among callers to Seventh Generation Inc.'s help line, says Sue Holden, head of the consumer-insights team at the Burlington, Vt., household-product maker. Two years ago, the company started making its detergent bottle cap with translucent plastic partly to make it easier to read. "We're trying to train people to do something that doesn't come naturally," says Ms. Holden. "Growing up, a lot of us just poured it in."

Seventh Generation's co-founder, Jeffrey Hollender, wonders why more people haven't stumbled upon laundry's big, dirty secret: "You don't even need soap to wash most loads," he says. The agitation of washing machines often does the job on its own.
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发表于 2010-1-27 11:20:06 | 显示全部楼层
发哥: 这小子估计从来不洗衣服。
看看,吾道不孤也。
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发表于 2010-1-27 11:43:55 | 显示全部楼层
SevenStar: 看看,吾道不孤也。
454邪教首领,一大队老婆,与老婆的产物无数?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 11:48:36 | 显示全部楼层
像>9锅的人致敬!

我要是需要分深浅颜色就2锅,要不就一锅烩了。
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:27:06 | 显示全部楼层
: 我要是需要分深浅颜色就2锅,要不就一锅烩了。
这里的东东不褪色,每次一锅烩也没啥事。你有很多国内带来的?
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:31:26 | 显示全部楼层
我也是分深浅色各一锅。
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:32:08 | 显示全部楼层
老齯: 454邪教首领,一大队老婆,与老婆的产物无数?
怎么能说是邪教?一大队老婆也是读圣经读出来的。
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:45:56 | 显示全部楼层
我要是需要分深浅颜色就2锅,要不就一锅烩了。(ZT)

而且咱家用的是最新的滚筒式(前装式,front loader),号称特省水。俺观察过,洗的时候,机器里几乎没有什么水。

不过刚反应过来,这里说的是洗涤剂啊?用前装式,因为省水,所以也省洗涤剂。原因是水少了,洗涤剂就不会被稀释得那么厉害,就可以少用。
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:50:38 | 显示全部楼层
SevenStar: 为了5分。
矫情!
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发表于 2010-1-27 12:51:07 | 显示全部楼层
不4皇冠,但谢了!
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发表于 2010-1-27 13:25:48 | 显示全部楼层
漫人: 矫情!
惭愧,惭愧,还不能排进前三名。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 14:49:43 | 显示全部楼层
老齯: 这里的东东不褪色,每次一锅烩也没啥事。你有很多国内带来的?
有时候要用不离去。另外也觉得内1外1分开洗好点儿。
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发表于 2010-1-27 15:30:52 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-1-27 16:04:10 | 显示全部楼层
: 有时候要用不离去。另外也觉得内1外1分开洗好点儿。
里投资者。
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发表于 2010-1-27 17:05:52 | 显示全部楼层
几锅是要看情况的呀?  家里的革命同志心血来潮忽然想穿某件衣服时,一条裤一件衣也是可以湿一锅干一锅地。   不然,我就投两锅吧,取平均数。
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发表于 2010-1-27 17:42:59 | 显示全部楼层
我们家的脏衣服各人有自己的筐,洗起来多数也是分着洗,平均一人一星期一锅,所以投了五锅。不过通常情况下我和女儿的内衣以及我的不耐洗的衣服单独洗一锅。孩子们的衣服有时候会合起来洗一锅,但小三儿的衣服我总是单洗。老公情况不定,有时候一个半星期才洗一锅。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 17:58:55 | 显示全部楼层
八月风: 我们家的脏衣服各人有自己的筐,洗起来多数也是分着洗,平均一人一星期一锅,所以投了五锅。不过通常情况下我和女儿的内衣以及我的不耐洗的衣服单独洗一锅。孩子们的衣
看来平均每人每星期一锅是个靠谱的数
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发表于 2010-1-27 18:35:28 | 显示全部楼层
: 看来平均每人每星期一锅是个靠谱的数
0锅 - 通常唱着《洗衣歌》用手洗。
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发表于 2010-1-27 20:11:15 | 显示全部楼层
嘿嘿,洗衣服不是我的事,不过听LD抱怨大概是三锅左右吧,现在人口少了,我就投两锅。
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发表于 2010-1-27 20:18:49 | 显示全部楼层
老齯: 这里的东东不褪色,每次一锅烩也没啥事。你有很多国内带来的?
我也是深浅颜色分锅洗,倒不是因为退色。是我被单,浴巾,内衣。。。白色的那锅加bleach。
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发表于 2010-1-27 20:28:16 | 显示全部楼层
茶J,来晚了没奖赏了吗?
能不能给各选项“有时多,有时少呢” 我杀跳蚤的时候,一天至少两锅也。
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发表于 2010-1-27 20:29:25 | 显示全部楼层
我也没得到分
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发表于 2010-1-27 21:24:44 | 显示全部楼层
SevenStar: 为了5分。
哪儿有5分?没分不投
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 21:33:43 | 显示全部楼层
东少: 0锅 - 通常唱着《洗衣歌》用手洗。
然后在后院晾干?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 22:06:41 | 显示全部楼层
红豆: 茶J,来晚了没奖赏了吗?
能不能给各选项“有时多,有时少呢”我杀跳蚤的时候,一天至少两锅也。
加赏了,也加了你要的选项
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-27 22:07:13 | 显示全部楼层
红娘子: 我也没得到分
换件衣服再去,加赏了
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发表于 2010-1-27 23:02:49 | 显示全部楼层
不投,一点都不科学。总用量说明不了什么。一家两口和一家五口差远了。应该统计每家的人均用量。
要是给足十分我可以考虑作原则的妥协。
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发表于 2010-1-27 23:27:26 | 显示全部楼层
: 加赏了,也加了你要的选项
哇,谢谢啦~~
不过,我可没有小六哥矫情也。
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发表于 2010-1-27 23:29:20 | 显示全部楼层
-KK-: 哪儿有5分?没分不投
哼,给你加了也白加也~~~全小站都知道你不勤快,整天就知道吃金华火腿的。
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发表于 2010-1-28 08:58:36 | 显示全部楼层
红豆: 哼,给你加了也白加也~~~全小站都知道你不勤快,整天就知道吃金华火腿的。
我们家原来6锅,换了个大好洗衣机现在是3-4锅。
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发表于 2010-1-28 09:45:51 | 显示全部楼层
是手洗还是机器洗?
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发表于 2010-1-28 12:35:09 | 显示全部楼层
我家洗得多一方面是因为换得勤,另外也是因为我洗衣服时分类比较细,不仅外衣内衣要分开,内衣本身也要分类,尤其是内裤(手洗后再用机器洗),就从来没有和别的衣服一起洗过,孩子的内裤也从来不和大人的内裤一起洗。袜子也从来都是单洗,不和别的衣服混在一起洗。我和女儿的白色外衣/毛衣也要单独洗一锅。我比较爱用bleach,所有的白毛巾,老公的贴身T-shirts,和所有人的内裤,袜子,每次洗完后都要加bleach再洗一遍。新买的贴身穿的衣服和床单(除了裙子和老公的白衬衫外),在穿/用前都要先洗一遍。

我是有一些洁癖的,这个我知道,但很不好克服。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-28 14:55:44 | 显示全部楼层
666: 不投,一点都不科学。总用量说明不了什么。一家两口和一家五口差远了。应该统计每家的人均用量。
要是给足十分我可以考虑作原则的妥协。
歇着巴你,不用脱鞋。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-28 14:56:45 | 显示全部楼层
AprilFool: 我家洗得多一方面是因为换得勤,另外也是因为我洗衣服时分类比较细,不仅外衣内衣要分开,内衣本身也要分类,尤其是内裤(手洗后再用机器洗),就从来没有和别的衣服一起洗过,孩
哇!你这可是分得够细的!
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发表于 2010-1-28 17:16:44 | 显示全部楼层
来晚了,又没拿到赏钱。以后不投了。
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发表于 2010-1-28 17:19:39 | 显示全部楼层
AprilFool: 我家洗得多一方面是因为换得勤,另外也是因为我洗衣服时分类比较细,不仅外衣内衣要分开,内衣本身也要分类,尤其是内裤(手洗后再用机器洗),就从来没有和别的衣服一起洗过,孩
哈哈,我的朋友也有洁癖。不过她是先洗衣机洗再手洗,因为她觉得洗衣机清不干净水。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-28 19:16:27 | 显示全部楼层
youzi: 来晚了,又没拿到赏钱。以后不投了。
别呀!为你再加赏银。
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发表于 2010-1-28 21:39:11 | 显示全部楼层
为了5分,当一回红豆的叔叔。
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发表于 2010-1-29 01:05:45 | 显示全部楼层
: 歇着巴你,不用脱鞋。
为了5分,你不脱我拖
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